I can't really make heads or tails of it by reading just what has been posted here.
Thanks.
tapu wrote:Kay, I know I speak for a whole bunch of us when I say, I am so pleased that you want to!!
Heroine is right about a lot of info coming, but I think what you may have in mind is like a "primer."
I don't keep links to news stories but a lot of folks here do. Can anyone pull out 5-6 article links in order that can serve as an intro?
I would love it if the Couchers started diving into this, too.
Hey, Kay, as an aside, Where Are Bander and Sig???? I want to talk to Bander about something..... (Oh, and I'm not on facebook.)
EThe Kay wrote:Thanks, Pax and Heroine, for those links. I'll try to get as caught up as possible so I'm not totally clueless. I sometimes have a problem with being clueless (shaddup you, tapu).
Heroine, I signed up at WS so I could try to find tapu, before someone gave me her email address. I'm staying here, but I could always read stuff over there.
By the way, the Billings murders happened about 10 miles from me (the couple who had something like 18 disabled children).
The Kay wrote:Why was he Sam charged with 6 counts of murder if only four people were killed?
How do you kill four people a hammer? Did he kill them while they were sleeping?
Paximus wrote:The Kay wrote:Why was he Sam charged with 6 counts of murder if only four people were killed?
How do you kill four people a hammer? Did he kill them while they were sleeping?
We do not know how or when he killed them, we assume he used a maul, hammer and a chunk of wood. We speculate they were asleep but no evidence to support that yet.
The additional charges relate to having murdered more than 2 or 3 people in a certain period of time, in some states sich as VA that can result in additional murder charges beyond the number of people you actualy killed. He only actually killed 4 that we know of. They trump the charges to be safe, in case he isnt found guilty on the others they have more to fall back on.
I was afraid of that with this economy, people are broke. I know the gem show here in Tucson is usually a big money maker for you guys but I suspected it would be hit hard this year with everyone hurting so badly.ROCKDAWG wrote:Heck, No ! The show cost me $3,000.00 and I sold only $1,500.00 worth of merch. Usually I do real well but this show was a killer. And I drove 4 thousand miles round trip to get my ass kicked !
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BTW...I was just at websleuths and there seem to be a couple threads missing
I could be wrong, but it looks as though 5 and 6 are no longer there. Maybe I just overlooked them?
The Kay wrote:Why was he Sam charged with 6 counts of murder if only four people were killed?
How do you kill four people a hammer? Did he kill them while they were sleeping?
Splendor Solis wrote:The Kay wrote:Why was he Sam charged with 6 counts of murder if only four people were killed?
How do you kill four people a hammer? Did he kill them while they were sleeping?
The 6 counts are for, like was stated, murdering more that one in a certain time frame.
In VA that's 3 years, so here's the breakdown of the 6 counts:
Killing Emma and Mel within 3 yrs.
Killing Emma and Debra (Emma's mother) within 3 yrs.
Killing Emma and Mark (Emma's father) within 3 yrs.
Killing Debra and Mark within 3 yrs.
Killing Mel and Debra within 3 yrs.
Killing Mel and Mark within 3 yrs.
dangrsmind wrote:Splendor Solis wrote:The Kay wrote:Why was he Sam charged with 6 counts of murder if only four people were killed?
How do you kill four people a hammer? Did he kill them while they were sleeping?
The 6 counts are for, like was stated, murdering more that one in a certain time frame.
In VA that's 3 years, so here's the breakdown of the 6 counts:
Killing Emma and Mel within 3 yrs.
Killing Emma and Debra (Emma's mother) within 3 yrs.
Killing Emma and Mark (Emma's father) within 3 yrs.
Killing Debra and Mark within 3 yrs.
Killing Mel and Debra within 3 yrs.
Killing Mel and Mark within 3 yrs.
I'm not sure this is right...
The way I think it works is 1 count for each of the four murders
Two additional "bonus" counts for killing more than two people in three years, 1 each for the 3rd and 4th murders
=> 6 counts total
The reason I say this is that the number of counts rises exponentially by your method. See below.
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Can one of the attorneys comment on this? I can't imagine they would actually file over a thousand counts against someone that killed 50 people as the paperwork would be prohibitive and you simply can't imprison someone for that long anyway, i..e. 1 year for each of 1,000 counts = 1,000 years in prison.
Although I did just read about someone that received a 309 year sentence for aggravated identity theft...
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