Outcasts



Join the forum, it's quick and easy

Outcasts

Outcasts

Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.
Outcasts

Forum for outcast sleuths.


2 posters

    Bill Clinton runs interference with Sestak's bid for Senate

    ziggy
    ziggy


    Posts : 950
    Join date : 2010-02-16
    Age : 63
    Location : Sonoma County CA

    Bill Clinton runs interference with Sestak's bid for Senate Empty Bill Clinton runs interference with Sestak's bid for Senate

    Post by ziggy Fri May 28, 2010 3:52 pm

    Did Bill Clinton break part of the U.S. code that says : "Whoever, directly or indirectly, promises any employment, position, compensation...appointment...provided for or made possible in whole or in part by any Act of Congress...to any person as consideration, favor, or reward for any political activity...or in connection with any primary election ...shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both." ????

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/05/28/sestak.obama.senate/index.html?hpt=T2

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/05/28/white-house-asked-clinton-urge-sestak-drop-senate-race/

    Maybe it will be like that O.J. thing where it's something like this that finally gets him in the end. For realz tho. it won't happen - he's Bill Clinton for gosh sakes...Mr. Teflon. I think this administration is just as corrupt and maybe worse than others. I'll tell you one thing - Obama is a divider for sure. He has driven people futher apart. He and his far left cronies are not even embarrassed to admit what they do. I just can't believe my ears sometimes.
    avatar
    Guest
    Guest


    Bill Clinton runs interference with Sestak's bid for Senate Empty Re: Bill Clinton runs interference with Sestak's bid for Senate

    Post by Guest Fri May 28, 2010 4:10 pm

    We have a divided nation. Recent national elections have been very close. I think that is unfortunate. What is similar about us is more important than what is different. I was hopeful that Obama would be the kind of president that would be able to pull some support from the opposing side but currently that does not appear to be the case.
    Who knows how he will be viewed in two years though? Bush had unheard of popularity #'s Sept 12, 2001 and was so poorly thought of by the end of his second term that it was really the Democrats election to lose.
    Perhaps voters expect the government to fix things that it cannot fix. As such they are never happy so there is a continual flip flop back and forth between the two parties at alternating elections. It becomes a grass is greener on the other side idea and people want whatever it is they do not have at the time.
    ziggy
    ziggy


    Posts : 950
    Join date : 2010-02-16
    Age : 63
    Location : Sonoma County CA

    Bill Clinton runs interference with Sestak's bid for Senate Empty Re: Bill Clinton runs interference with Sestak's bid for Senate

    Post by ziggy Fri May 28, 2010 5:25 pm

    Now you're singing my sweet song...indeed the masses do expect government to fix things it cannot. The two party system is broken as well as just about any other governement system you can think of. In fact, just now I was trying to find a program I thought was working out well and...the sound of crickets is the only thing that popped into my head.

    You are right. We will just flip flop back and forth thinking there will be "change". Ha. Suckers! The only change will come with US meaning the people - when we forget about party lines and hold policiticians feet to the fire.

    But we are divided. A segment of the country has grown more secular and socialist in nature. It's not in line with our founders ideals and it's going to be what continues to divide us.
    avatar
    Guest
    Guest


    Bill Clinton runs interference with Sestak's bid for Senate Empty Re: Bill Clinton runs interference with Sestak's bid for Senate

    Post by Guest Fri May 28, 2010 5:48 pm

    I think a lot of government programs work well. A lot could work better but we enjoy good services here. The post office works. I can think of only one time in my adult life that I know I mailed a letter and it did not get where it was suppose to go. We have roads and bridges and airports and electrical grids all of which are created government / private industry partnerships. We have police and fire departments. Sure they are flawed but we could do a lot worse. Our military is pretty exceptional. We do have the best of everything in the world for defense. There are a lot of other countries that would like to buy some F22 Raptors. [If you have not seen one fly by the way and ever have the chance to go to an airshow you should. A nose up 90 degree verticle asscent in the fist 1/3 of the runway is pretty impressive to see in person.]
    I think a lot of the divison arrises because we tend to fight about things that really don't matter. Gay marriage is a great example. Who really cares? Unless you are the one gettting married it does not really change your life. Why was this a question that was posed to both the presidential and vice presidental canidates in the last election? I don't understand how "freedom loving people" can be so offended by others exercising their rights for pursuit of happiness.
    avatar
    Guest
    Guest


    Bill Clinton runs interference with Sestak's bid for Senate Empty Re: Bill Clinton runs interference with Sestak's bid for Senate

    Post by Guest Fri May 28, 2010 5:51 pm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D4F0G4aIuU&feature=related
    Off topic but just a cool video. It is more impressive in person. It is an amazing aircraft.
    ziggy
    ziggy


    Posts : 950
    Join date : 2010-02-16
    Age : 63
    Location : Sonoma County CA

    Bill Clinton runs interference with Sestak's bid for Senate Empty Re: Bill Clinton runs interference with Sestak's bid for Senate

    Post by ziggy Fri May 28, 2010 6:02 pm

    Ok good point. We do have an exceptional military. That video is awesome!!! Some things that don't matter to you are important to me and vice versa. Guess we'll just keep fighting about stuff until you say uncle Smile
    avatar
    Guest
    Guest


    Bill Clinton runs interference with Sestak's bid for Senate Empty Re: Bill Clinton runs interference with Sestak's bid for Senate

    Post by Guest Fri May 28, 2010 6:14 pm

    We do agree on quite a few things.
    For the rest of it I suppose I'll just have to keep working on you. Bill Clinton runs interference with Sestak's bid for Senate Icon_wink
    ziggy
    ziggy


    Posts : 950
    Join date : 2010-02-16
    Age : 63
    Location : Sonoma County CA

    Bill Clinton runs interference with Sestak's bid for Senate Empty Re: Bill Clinton runs interference with Sestak's bid for Senate

    Post by ziggy Fri May 28, 2010 6:35 pm

    Have you ever watched a show called "Lie to Me"? They keep using the body language of Bill Clinton, lol...to show liars. Smile You keep working on me. I've been known to bend.
    avatar
    Guest
    Guest


    Bill Clinton runs interference with Sestak's bid for Senate Empty Re: Bill Clinton runs interference with Sestak's bid for Senate

    Post by Guest Fri May 28, 2010 7:31 pm

    ziggy wrote:Have you ever watched a show called "Lie to Me"? They keep using the body language of Bill Clinton, lol...to show liars. Bill Clinton runs interference with Sestak's bid for Senate Icon_smile You keep working on me. I've been known to bend.
    I've been known to change a view or two of my own. I think the willingness to change is a sign of intelligence. None of us have all the answers. There always can be something else to consider. We make the best choices we can with the information we have at the time.
    I HATE it when political commentators accuse politicians of flip flopping. He voted for an issue once then later he voted against it so.... which is it??.. is he lieing now or was he being dishonest then??? Give me a break. How many things does anyone feel exactly the same about 10 years, or 5 years, or even in some cases a year later? We live in a constantly changing world. We need leaders that are able to adapt as situations change.
    avatar
    Guest
    Guest


    Bill Clinton runs interference with Sestak's bid for Senate Empty Re: Bill Clinton runs interference with Sestak's bid for Senate

    Post by Guest Fri May 28, 2010 7:38 pm

    Clinton presided over a time of prosperity and realtive peace. He tarnished what could have been simply a brilliant career by making the mistake that so many before him have. Had he had the moral compass to consider his commitment to his wife more seriously then no one would have much to complain about.
    He did not. It starts with a betrayal of the family but for people who hold politcal office it is even more serious. His affair compromised the office that he held. It created an unnecessary secret. Monica told Lind Tripp who told the media. What if instead Monica had told someone with a different adjenda. What if Monica herself had alligences that lie elsewhere. What if one of them had been an operative for a foreign nation or someone else with a political interest that was far more sinister than telling the media. His indiscretion put everyone at risk. Just my opinion.
    Kay
    Kay


    Posts : 143
    Join date : 2010-03-29
    Age : 62
    Location : Gulf Coast

    Bill Clinton runs interference with Sestak's bid for Senate Empty Re: Bill Clinton runs interference with Sestak's bid for Senate

    Post by Kay Mon May 31, 2010 6:58 pm

    Scott wrote:Clinton presided over a time of prosperity and realtive peace. He tarnished what could have been simply a brilliant career by making the mistake that so many before him have. Had he had the moral compass to consider his commitment to his wife more seriously then no one would have much to complain about.
    He did not. It starts with a betrayal of the family but for people who hold politcal office it is even more serious. His affair compromised the office that he held. It created an unnecessary secret. Monica told Lind Tripp who told the media. What if instead Monica had told someone with a different adjenda. What if Monica herself had alligences that lie elsewhere. What if one of them had been an operative for a foreign nation or someone else with a political interest that was far more sinister than telling the media. His indiscretion put everyone at risk. Just my opinion.

    He tarnished the office he held by lying under oath, not having an affair.
    avatar
    Guest
    Guest


    Bill Clinton runs interference with Sestak's bid for Senate Empty Re: Bill Clinton runs interference with Sestak's bid for Senate

    Post by Guest Mon May 31, 2010 9:11 pm

    Kay wrote:
    Scott wrote:Clinton presided over a time of prosperity and realtive peace. He tarnished what could have been simply a brilliant career by making the mistake that so many before him have. Had he had the moral compass to consider his commitment to his wife more seriously then no one would have much to complain about.
    He did not. It starts with a betrayal of the family but for people who hold politcal office it is even more serious. His affair compromised the office that he held. It created an unnecessary secret. Monica told Lind Tripp who told the media. What if instead Monica had told someone with a different adjenda. What if Monica herself had alligences that lie elsewhere. What if one of them had been an operative for a foreign nation or someone else with a political interest that was far more sinister than telling the media. His indiscretion put everyone at risk. Just my opinion.

    He tarnished the office he held by lying under oath, not having an affair.
    I can accept that. They were both completely unacceptable for someone in his position.

    Sponsored content


    Bill Clinton runs interference with Sestak's bid for Senate Empty Re: Bill Clinton runs interference with Sestak's bid for Senate

    Post by Sponsored content


      Current date/time is Sat May 11, 2024 7:18 am