Advice on men

Paximus wrote:
I assume you mean, by this statement, that the younger generation are all pretty dumb and ignorant and I can see why one might think that but the statistics indicate otherwise. Kids today are a lot smarter and more creative than any generation that came before them.


Its just like anything else, people think because we have more violent images on TV and in movies and more violent music that crime is increasing because of that, but again, thats a testament to the power of flawed perception because in fact crime is down even though we are now subject to more violent media than ever before.


So, as always, and this probably belongs in the 'things ive learned in life' thread, things are never quite what they seem to be.

Mags wrote:

Paximus wrote:
I assume you mean, by this statement, that the younger generation are all pretty dumb and ignorant and I can see why one might think that but the statistics indicate otherwise. Kids today are a lot smarter and more creative than any generation that came before them.


Its just like anything else, people think because we have more violent images on TV and in movies and more violent music that crime is increasing because of that, but again, thats a testament to the power of flawed perception because in fact crime is down even though we are now subject to more violent media than ever before.


So, as always, and this probably belongs in the 'things ive learned in life' thread, things are never quite what they seem to be.

You assume incorrectly.

I am talking about a very large segment of the population that has entitlement issues. I've also seen, through the 25 years I've worked directly with the public, a steady decrease over the last ten, of basic manners. Only the last few have been in fast food service, but that really drives it home.

Paximus wrote:Dude forget even POT, if this country simply legalized HEMP and used it in textiles, industry etc, we could pay the national debt off pretty easily. HEMP is too much of a threat to big oil for them to consider this. HEMP could get us off foreign oil dependency.

Mags wrote:Oh, that's an easy one. We went wrong when we first allowed the gov't to start "taking care of us." Widows, orphans and the needy, so to speak, are the charge of churches, charities and the general good will of the people. It's not the gov'ts place to create social programs and mandate their support, it's society's job.

Splendor Solis wrote:

Paximus wrote:Dude forget even POT, if this country simply legalized HEMP and used it in textiles, industry etc, we could pay the national debt off pretty easily. HEMP is too much of a threat to big oil for them to consider this. HEMP could get us off foreign oil dependency.

Then we'd have foreign hemp dependency. Plus, in actuality the expense of it would probably be exponentially more than you think. I'm not saying we shouldn't look into it and other alternatives, but there is no magical "cheap" cure.

Paximus wrote:

Mags wrote:Oh, that's an easy one. We went wrong when we first allowed the gov't to start "taking care of us." Widows, orphans and the needy, so to speak, are the charge of churches, charities and the general good will of the people. It's not the gov'ts place to create social programs and mandate their support, it's society's job.

agree, so the blame should be placed on that rat bastard FDR and his New Deal. However, I do think some people need help sometimes so I dont have a big problem with some of my tax dollars going to feed families who are hungry, of course a lot of people take advantage of welfare and that is never a good thing, ideally as you say the churches and charities would handle these matters but we dont live in an ideal world, I wish we did, but we dont and there are no simple answers to the many complex issues we face today.his of course, by extension, can lead to the even more controversial discussion of social darwinism, ever read the book MIGHT IS RIGHT by Ragnar Redbeard? It brings to the table the whole issue that the weak, disabled and others incapable of taking care of themselves should not be helped along or allowed to breed because all it does essentially is weaken the gene pool. I am not sure I am made of what it takes to believe that way but I know a lot of people who swear by it and it is, afterall

Mags wrote:No on hemp. That's just silly. You have to grow it which takes up land that can be used for farming first, and anything else second. Hemp isn't a practical means of energy supply. Wind, water and nuclear power are all better choices.

tapu wrote:I must have misread the title.

And things just seemed kind of pointedly pot heavy, suddenly. Maybe not.

dangrsmind wrote:Interestingly Might is Right was the major source from which Anton LaVey cribbed his Satanic Bible. Caveat Emptor.

As far as the decline in manners and society...

Whenever I hear someone going off about our declining morals and society I just have to ask them to explain the significant, substantial and unprecedented drop in violent crime which has accompanied this so called decline. Even if people are ruder, exposed to increasingly realistic violent media, etc. the fact is they are less violent than at any time in recent history.

Paximus wrote:

Mags wrote:No on hemp. That's just silly. You have to grow it which takes up land that can be used for farming first, and anything else second. Hemp isn't a practical means of energy supply. Wind, water and nuclear power are all better choices.

Well that is a matter of debate and there are many very intelligent and cutting edge thinkers who would disagree with you, however, I see no real reason to have this discussion here since nobody's mind is going to be changed regarding the matter.

Paximus wrote:I changed it, I can change it back, the discussion has come to include guns and pot talk in addition to men so I simply added those two to the title so that those interested parties who may want to join in on such a discussion will know what the thread is about.

I certainly wont make a habit of changing things like that but in the case it seemed to make sense.

dabobkat wrote:

Paximus wrote:I changed it, I can change it back, the discussion has come to include guns and pot talk in addition to men so I simply added those two to the title so that those interested parties who may want to join in on such a discussion will know what the thread is about.

I certainly wont make a habit of changing things like that but in the case it seemed to make sense.

Well maybe the only way to understand men is to smoke some dope and shoot a gun

dangrsmind wrote:Interestingly Might is Right was the major source from which Anton LaVey cribbed his Satanic Bible. Caveat Emptor.

As far as the decline in manners and society...

Whenever I hear someone going off about our declining morals and society I just have to ask them to explain the significant, substantial and unprecedented drop in violent crime which has accompanied this so called decline. Even if people are ruder, exposed to increasingly realistic violent media, etc. the fact is they are less violent than at any time in recent history.

dabobkat wrote:Well maybe the only way to understand men is to smoke some dope and shoot a gun

tapu wrote:I am definitely starting to feel as though anarchy is not the way for me.